Fail is a verb, McJob is a noun, so you better familarize yourself with both.
Three girls are studying for an English exam.
Girl #1: Okay, so wait - what's a noun again?
Girl #2: That's a person, place or thing.
Girl #3: No, that's a verb!
Girl #2: No, I'm pretty sure a noun is a person, place or thing.
Girl #3: Well, one of us is going to fail this exam, and it's not going to be me!
-- Huron, overheard by H
Girl #1: Okay, so wait - what's a noun again?
Girl #2: That's a person, place or thing.
Girl #3: No, that's a verb!
Girl #2: No, I'm pretty sure a noun is a person, place or thing.
Girl #3: Well, one of us is going to fail this exam, and it's not going to be me!
-- Huron, overheard by H
posted by Overheard at Western at 2:08 PM
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ALL English majors (or Arts majors in general) should familiarize themselves with the term McJob!
McArts: over $20,000 wasted.
I used my arts degree to go to law school. What a waste that was. Now I'll only have my enormous house, three cars and two trophy wives to console me...
^ Not to mention a crushing life of bootlicking and living in your office.
Clearly 1:15 has yet to go through the soul-destroying experiance known as "articling". Talk to me when you have and we'll see if you still like law so much. By that point, most people don't.
I think 1:15's point was merely that an arts degree can lead a person to careers outside the realm of McJobs. Debate the merits of lawyering all you like - and I share most of the reservations already alluded to - just don't tell me that working as a lawyer is a McJob.
/Arts major for the win!
what people don't tell you is that there are plenty of science grads with crappy jobs too...one of my friends has a comp sci degree from an Ivy League school, and even he is seriously underemployed.
How can someone be "seriously underemployed"?
Aside from the question of how you could be casually underemployed, by saying he is "underemployed" implies he is employed, just not enough, which is a pretty crap thing to bitch about. Part time rocks.
This whole "an arts degree = being a lawyer" is stupid. It's the useful law degree, not your useless BA in comparative literature, that allows you to be a lawyer.
Believe it or not, some people view education as an end unto itself. Not everything we do in life must have the end result in pay. If you get a job from a BA in art history at a museum, great! But if you actually enjoy studying art for its own sake, then employment may not be the only reason for taking the course. Also, An educated society is essential for a functioning democracy. Otherwise we'd be electing dumbass leaders like Dubya... wait a sec, we DID elect a dumbass leader like Dubya: Stevie "Wonder" Harper!
Boooooo!!!
11:37:
"seriously underemployed" = employed at a position and salary far below those appropriate for your education and skill level (e.g. a cab driver with a PhD). Maybe "severely" is a better word.
My point is that it's not only Arts majors that end up with lousy jobs.
(2:30)
Pardon me, 12:26, but if your essential argument, (that having a greater proportion of educated people in a society prevents the election of conservative/ republican candidates) was is true, then how do you explain that, in the U.S., higher levels of education in individuals are corelated to and increased chance of voting republican?
Infidel bleeding heart liberals! Harper u Ackbar!!!!
12:49, I explain it this way: According to CNN (not the most reliable, but nevertheless) that high school grads voted 52 for 47 for Bush in 2004. College graduates (i.e business, etc) voted 52 to 46 for Bush. While people with post-graduate degrees voted 55 to 44 for Kerry. While this isn't as large as the rural/urban divide, it still proves my point.
Oh, the website: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html
I go to Ivey.
Vidar: reality has a liberal bias.
I love how you think criticizing Bush and Harper makes a person a communist. That rant was pure Richard Nixon! Kudos!
Is it me, or do the stats at 3:41 not make sense? Did I miss the part where they're not supposed to add up to 100?
8:04 : I would assume that it is due to the fact that a small percentage of voters voted for a third party candidate.
3:41 : i don't doubt that those are the stats from 2004, but i would suggest that 2004 may have been an abberation. The general trend from about the late 60's onward corelated income and education with republican votes.
Regardless, I would suggest that saying "Ignorant people vote republican" is no different than saying "communists vote liberal/democrat"....it is a generalization that simply isn't useful in real debate.
I call western alumni for a living....and believe me......graduates from all faculties/degrees/Bachelors can end up with shit jobs...I've talked to Engineering grads that LITERALLY work at mcdonalds (no, not making it up). EVERYONE gets fucked...not just some people.
It's HAVING a Bachelor that gets you further....fuck, you don't even need to take science to go to med school.
For the comment about how the BA was useless for the lawyer....
Do you think they came out of high school and went RIGHT INTO law school? Likely not...I'm assuming having the BA got them INTO law school.
11:02, you speak the truth.
Can't we all just get along?
Who's your daddy Western? That's right... IVEY!
I love how the whole thing started out talking about art degrees and now we ending up talking about politics...cause that makes sense!
Allahu Ackbar!!!
It's OAW, it's not supposed to make sense. Death to America!!!
Your mom isn't supposed to make sense.
it depends what you mean by "liberalism". Classical liberalism, the philosophy of people like John Stuart Mill, is one of the foundations of most western societies...of course, it is most closely identified with "conservative" parties these days....
^ I fapped to this.
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